Discerning: Evil and Good. Janet Fife writes on 25 years of women’s ordination

The Church of England’s General Synod voted on 11 November, 1992 to ordain women to the priesthood. Why were the first women not ordained until March 1994? At 25 years’ distance it might seem that the ordination of the thousand or so female deacons into the priesthood could have proceeded within a few months. With my own silver anniversary on 23 April, I’ve been reflecting back on that process.

In order to get the legislation through Synod without splitting the Church, the House of Bishops made several substantial compromises. One of these was that all the women who believed themselves called to the priesthood, and who had already been through a selection process for ordination, would have to go through selection again. This time it was called a ‘discernment procedure’. In many dioceses ‘discernment’ consisted of little more than a chat with the bishop. I was in Manchester, however, where opposition to women’s ordination was strong. We had a more involved procedure culminating with an interview.

I knew it was going to be a hostile interview as soon as I walked into the room. The two interviewers (a Manchester archdeacon and a female deacon from another diocese) were sitting with their backs to the light, and far enough apart so that I couldn’t look at both of them at once. As the interview proceeded they alternated questions, so every question came from someone I couldn’t see, and I would have to turn to them to answer it.  Meanwhile the other would be observing me, but I couldn’t see them. It was a set-up calculated to put candidates off their stroke.

I was asked to recount the history of my vocation. My sense of calling dated back to when I was 9 years of age and my family were attending a Baptist church in the USA, so my answer required a little time and explanation. The interviewers listened with apparent attention. Then one of them said, ‘That can’t have happened.’ Incredulous, I asked, ‘Why can’t it have happened?’ ‘Because the Church hadn’t made its mind up then.’ I couldn’t understand how they could assume that God had no foreknowledge of the decision the Church of England would make, and had made no provision for it. I pictured God, on that November afternoon in 1992, being taken unawares and desperately scrabbling around to find some women to call to the priesthood. It was the more ridiculous because at my selection conference in 1983 there had been no pretence that my vocation was to the diaconate rather than the priesthood. So I replied to A and B, ‘Are you telling me God can only do what the Church of England decides to do?’ This did not go down well.

The whole interview was traumatic and for some days afterwards I was shaking and ill. Nor was I alone; women reported coming out of their interview and vomiting, or having repeated nightmares in the days and weeks following.  When we got the letter with our results, a number of women had been turned down on clearly spurious grounds. One mother was told having young children meant she couldn’t function as a priest; the same did not apply to her priest husband. Another, a lecturer at an ecumenical ordination training scheme, was told it didn’t give her a ‘sufficient sacramental base’ for priesthood – despite her also being attached to an Anglican parish. All but one of these had the decision reversed on appeal. Her case was particularly hard. Her interview was interrupted first by the fire alarm and then by a power failure. Before the discernment process began she had been promised an incumbency by her bishop, but now she was told she was unsuitable for the priesthood. The bishop’s reply to protests on her behalf was that to change the decision would ‘discredit the process’. , She was eventually priested after token ‘further training’.

When my report arrived, I found to my relief that I had been recommended for ordination. However, the report was so intensely negative that I didn’t see how they could have reached a positive conclusion. I could not have recommended for the priesthood someone with the qualities they attributed to me. I showed it to my spiritual director, an Anglican nun well versed in the ways of the Church of England. She said, ‘It makes me feel sick.’ She couldn’t understand the ordained female interviewer, whom she knew, taking part in this abusive process.

I was concerned that this very critical and unfair report would remain permanently in my file and affect future job prospects, so I asked the bishop to remove it. He refused. I am grateful to several clergy and lay people who then wrote to the bishop with an alternative – and more positive – view of my personality and abilities. One or two of these at least were retained in my file, as I discovered last year when I sent for it.

This was the background to my ordination as a priest on 23 April 1994. The ordination service was wonderful. It was personally healing and fulfilling, and the love and support shown for us was overwhelming. But we had been made to run the gauntlet to get there – and a senior diocesan figure admitted that the discernment procedure had been made brutal in order to placate our opponents.

Did I approach my ordination with hope? Well, I certainly hoped it wouldn’t be disrupted by protesters, and that I wouldn’t disgrace myself by falling down the precipitous chancel steps. And I hoped that eventually, as more women were ordained and moved into senior positions, the Church would become a juster and kinder institution. But I had seen senior women taking part in a process designed to hurt and demean their clergy sisters, and I had no illusions that simply promoting women would miraculously transform the Church. I had learned that the Church does not advance those who it fears will rock the boat by making a stand on principle. I had seen senior clergy play politics with the vocations of dedicated and godly women. And, not for the first (or last) time, I had seen a bishop refuse to do what he knew to be right, simply to avoid discrediting a Church procedure.

The iron had entered into my soul. I used to think that if we showed we were hardworking, capable, and didn’t make a fuss, the Church would eventually recognise that God had genuinely called us. We could then take an equal place alongside our male colleagues. I no longer believed that. I now recognised that we were dealing with bullies – and bullies must be resisted. Jesus told a story about an unjust judge who had to be inconvenienced before he would give a poor widow justice. When bishops put Church politics before justice and the kingdom of God, sometimes they need to be made uncomfortable until they do what is right.

About Stephen Parsons

Stephen is a retired Anglican priest living at present in Cumbria. He has taken a special interest in the issues around health and healing in the Church but also when the Church is a place of harm and abuse. He has published books on both these issues and is at present particularly interested in understanding how power works at every level in the Church. He is always interested in making contact with others who are concerned with these issues.

10 thoughts on “Discerning: Evil and Good. Janet Fife writes on 25 years of women’s ordination

  1. Oh, Janet! Where to start? Firstly, congratulations on your upcoming anniversary. After that…. Women beware women. Everything you describe has been done to me. You wouldn’t think a Reader was important enough to be so comprehensively got rid of as I was. What on earth are they afraid of? Not judgement, that’s for sure. One of Woodbine Willie’s poems ends with God looking at the person before the judgement seat and asking, “Well?” Wouldn’t you think they’d be just a little nervous?
    A supportive senior cleric said to me once, “These interviews shouldn’t make you feel like that”. I found that liberating. Most of my interviews had been unpleasant. The idea that that shouldn’t be changed my approach. Yes, women are frequently not supportive. If I were ordained tomorrow, I’d be pushed to find a woman to lay hands on me. Add in that I’ve been lied to and lied about. And yes, the report that made me think, “I wouldn’t ordain this person, either”. Except, I wasn’t in the end accepted.
    I am hoping that my new colleagues will help me to get a hearing on the role of bullying. The trouble there is the cod psychologists who think the cure is to pretend it never happened. Trauma is best dealt with by talking about it.
    Janet, your wisdom has helped me. All the best for the next 25years!

    1. Athena, thank you. I’m so sorry you’ve had similar experiences, I had hoped the Church might be improving in this respect.

      I hope too that you continue to find your new colleagues supportive, and that you will be heard re. bullying. There’s far too much of it in the Church and w haven’t begun to deal with It.

      Have a blessed Easter.

  2. Janet, your story horrifies me, as does the entire story of how women have been treated in our Church. I’m afraid the ‘Institutional Church’ is nothing more than a very human hierarchy: self-serving, arrogant and obdurate. I can assure you that it is no better for men!

  3. I remember all this so well; both the trauma and the bravery – you may recall I conducted the priests’ retreat! Thank you for staying with it, and for ensuring that the Church does not forget,

    1. Angela, I’ve never forgotten that, and what a healer that retreat was – despite the fact the architects of the discernment procedure were there. I had only 1000 words so couldn’t say it all. I especially remember the illustrated talk you gave on the evidence for female priests in the earliest Church.

      I’ve never forgotten either that you introduced me to neat whisky, and brandy with ginger ale!

      Thank you for all of it.

  4. I remember this dreadful business all too well as a friend and supporter of many fine women clergy in the diocese of Manchester. While I cannot truly understand what you all suffered it was painful to observe and provoked deep anger at the sheer inhumanity and injustice of it – though the ridiculous comment you received about your call being impossible has stuck with me as an example of bad theology, bad practice and plain idiocy over 25 years.

    Sadly, we still have offensively bad practice as regards gender. Remember the diocesan bishop (I guess the one behind the practices you expose here) who was challenged at the clergy conference over having 2 eucharists each day (one led by the flying bishop each day)? He could not understand why we were cross and in the end retorted ‘Goodness me! I already ordain women – what more do the girls want?’. That level of not getting it is still with us.

  5. Thank you Charles, the support of you and others was so important at the time. I remember a deanery chapter meeting where some of the men were hopping with anger. I remember our deanery wrote to the bishop asking for an external enquiry into the matter, but of course the request was refused. They tried to smooth it all over.

    I’ve written for Watch too this weekend, on a different aspect of these events. Here’s a link. https://womenandthechurch.org/news/twenty-five-years-on-a-reflection-on-ministry-a-hard-road-to-priesting/

  6. Thank you Janet for sharing this. Unfortunately I don’t think so much has changed and women are still being intimidated and bullied. Women certainly made a mistake if they thought being good and quiet would help the cause. And I think that was the reason some women spurned MOW which I was deeply hurt by at the time. Bullying of any sort is unchristian and needs calling out.

    1. Hear, hear! The men who still largely run the church have a model of what a woman should be. Mild, submissive, that sort of thing. If you aren’t like that, you aren’t wanted.

  7. What a sad story. Thank you for the post and comments. I clearly live in a sheltered backwater as I had no idea about any of this. I am so sorry.

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