Further reflections on Deference in the Church

In recent public statements, the Archbishop of Canterbury has spoken about the problem of deference.  In complaining about deference, he is, no doubt, referring to the distinctive way that he and other bishops are treated by clergy and people alike.  People at the top of a tree, here the bishops, are looked up to and there may a situation of complete or partial paralysis as the ordinary person feels overawed by being in their presence.  This experience of deference thus leads to a state of inhibition of communication so that the one with power is unlikely to hear the true opinions of those ‘below’.   It is perhaps not the fault of the ones who have the power which causes this kind of inhibition in the other.   All of us recognise this phenomenon.  We enter the presence of someone important and we have a tendency to feel our own unimportance.  Our opinions also feel small and we may well, in our state of littleness, not give a good account of ourselves or our real opinions.

I have been trying to reflect on why the Church has a problem with deference and how the effect of this non-communication is so damaging to the church at large.  Clearly it is important for people of importance to listen to the widest possible range of people when making decisions which may affect the welfare of the same people.  If  people routinely feel overawed into silence or formulaic responses, then something is lost in the process of communication and decision making.

From an historical point of view, deference can be understood as a by-product of the mediaeval feudal patterns of ordering society.   The king occupied that highest position in the land and he could command the loyalty of the nobles below him.  These held land on his behalf.  In turn other ranks found a place in that society, right down to the landless peasants and slaves.  There was no social mobility to speak of in mediaeval society.  The power of custom and tradition kept most people firmly stuck in the rank into which they had been born.  There was however one anomaly in this society, the Church.  By maintaining a respected role within the whole, the Church has schemes of education and social advancement not known elsewhere.  Through cathedral schools, a bright boy could advance up the hierarchy of rank to occupy a place in court or among the great families where education and literacy was valued. 

The exact relationship between church and state in mediaeval society was a subject of contention.  Without getting into deep historical detail, I can mention the work of an 9th century French bishop, Himcar of Rheims, who had much to do with the compiling of coronation rites for the early French kings.  He established the principle that a bishop was involved in the crowning of the King.  This quasi-sacramental act gave the bishop/pope an arguably higher place in the hierarchy that everyone acquiesced in.  Since that time bishops have inherited an intangible exalted status in the eyes of many people.  The word bishop can for some evoke centuries of influence and power.

Today the bishops carry what is regarded by many of them as the burden of being exalted within a hierarchical system.  Traces of these hierarchical ways of thinking are found in many parts of our society beyond the church.  One place of significance where we find it alive and well is in the English public-school system.  The boys at these schools could be said to be trained to live and breathe the values of mediaeval hierarchy.  The control and command structure find expression within the prefectorial system.  It has also been fed into the church through establishment influences like the Iwerne camps, about which we have heard so much recently.  Our whole society in the UK has in different ways learnt to live within and accept the values of deferential hierarchical society and way of doing things.  Bishops are right there in the middle of it, both as the result of history and to conform with an establishment that has grown up with it and still ‘enforces’ it.

It is hard to know what to recommend to Justin Welby as the antidote to deference.  One thought that comes out of a recent conversation, is to go back to the 7th century in England when the Roman (hierarchical) traditions defeated the local Celtic traditions at the Synod of Whitby in 664.  What was defeated was not just a different date for Easter but a whole distinct way of doing church.  There is a lot that we do not know about the churches of the Celtic period.  Many of our current ‘rediscoveries’ may be based on complete misunderstandings.  But the one thing we do glimpse is a church that rooted itself in the life and witness of its monastic communities.  Because these communities, especially in Ireland, were opened ended, learning and monastic spirituality flowed out of them and permeated the whole of society.  Celtic ideas are also perhaps responsible for an intuitive connection between creation and faith.  The greater emphasis on community and the holistic vision of living more in harmony with the created order certainly seem values that Justin Welby is sympathetic with.  The community of St Anselm represents a vision for doing church which is quite different from the hierarchical strands of church life that we find elsewhere in the church. 

With this thought about the values of Celtic Christianity (whether or not they are based on fantasy), I would urge the Archbishop to speak far more about these gentler values from the past.  We would ask him to speak to us about the values that emerge out of community life, especially as they are being rediscovered in his own religious community in Lambeth.  To free the church of deference we need to see him challenge more openly the hierarchical structures that permeate the Church in so many ways.  The failure to listen and speak to survivors is an example of old-fashioned hierarchical values that demand control over the structure at every turn.  The other great perceived value of Celtic Christianity is the constant awareness of creation.  Living more in harmony with the seasons, the forces of nature is an effort that demands humility and patience.  Being still before God is a sentiment that captures the mood of the twenty first century far better than the many words that are used weekly in the pulpits of the church.

I am not sure what the slogan of the Church should be to bring us back from the possibility of collapse and irrelevance in the coming decades.  One thing I am certain of is that it will embrace these Celtic values of humility, stillness and new forms of communal living.  As I said in a previous blog, we expect from leaders a vision for the future.  That vision will not be about the management of decline but about new possibilities, hopes and dreams for the future.  The Christian faith has the capacity to cause ‘young men to dream dreams and old men to see visions’.  We need our leaders to show us the way.

About Stephen Parsons

Stephen is a retired Anglican priest living at present in Cumbria. He has taken a special interest in the issues around health and healing in the Church but also when the Church is a place of harm and abuse. He has published books on both these issues and is at present particularly interested in understanding how power works at every level in the Church. He is always interested in making contact with others who are concerned with these issues.

11 thoughts on “Further reflections on Deference in the Church

  1. Much later than early Celtic Christianity came the Reformation and the Scottish abandonment of Episcopacy as the most suitable form of Government for the Church. The attitude to hierarchy was well seen in Andrew Melville’s famous encounter with King James Vl & l in Falkland Palace. Known for referring to James as “God’s sillie vassal” he told him that in the Church he was ‘but a subject’ (in up to date English):-
    “There are two Kings and two Kingdoms in Scotland. There is Christ Jesus the King, and his Kingdom the Kirk, and of whose kingdom James the Sixth is neither a king, nor a lord, nor a head, but a member” The Reformed Ecclesiology always suspicious of Bishops as “The Kings Men” wanted to pull away from the feudalism that was inherited from generations of European Christendom but that pull did not happen in England with the result that Episcopal deference remained though being obviously challenged in our present situation.

  2. Deference is the default position for many of us.

    Sometimes deference for leaders is out of respect for them, but often it is out of fear. Fear of their power over us. Fear of their army of support.

    If you are an aspiring clergy person looking for promotion in the C of E, you rock the boat at your peril. Call the bishop out on hypocrisy or cruelty? Go on, I dare you? See how that works out for you, and your family.

    Even an ordinary parishioner with a grievance can see clearly what happens to people who complain.

    No wonder there’s deference.

    There are plenty of biblical references to support deferring to those “over” us in the Lord. I’ve had first hand experience of this exhortation being abused.

    Deference makes your life easier as a leader. No one wants a fight on their hands every time she takes a contentious decision.

    I don’t think deference is going away any time soon.

    If you are a leader and you are concerned about abuse of deference, then put checks and balances in that you cannot override.

  3. Great posts, all three. I have noticed that bishops don’t invite you to “call me Fred” ! That would be a start. Stop appointing only clergy to senior posts. Why not have a Warden of Readers who is themselves a Reader? And make her a canon! Why not a person in charge of ministerial development who is a doctor of theology and vastly experienced, but not ordained? If you’re doing mission communities, you could have a lay group leader. Obviously, it would be different finding clergy to do communion. I mean, if they weren’t top dog, they wouldn’t want to work “under” a Reader! But so many capable lay people are passed over in favour of a cleric with few relevant qualifications. Each bishop decides by default to set up the same hierarchical system. Can we ask, pretty please, stop it?

    1. Oh, and I’ve had loads of support from retired clergy, and practically none from those still licensed!

  4. A wonderful blog Stephen. I would have loved to be in the Celtic church where stillness and waiting in the presence of God was prevalent to listening to words poured out by the priest. Respect for the land and God’s creation was a great part of their work.
    The church doesn’t seem to be overly bothered about climate change. Because it is so established in the country’s hierarchical system the church doesn’t want to ‘rock the boat’.
    If the hierarchical pyramid proves to be corrupt then the genuine members at the bottom of the pyramid must act, – active prayer because God is in charge.

  5. I must add far be it from me to say that abandonment of episcopacy makes for a perfect Church (!!) but I do think it does something about deference, its diminution. I remember when Andrew Heron, Clerk of the Presbytery of Glasgow was once commended on receiving an honorary Doctorate, the Moderator said that notwithstanding his new exalted honour he would still be the same old Andrew, to which Andrew replied “Oh no, I’ll have no more of this “hey Jimmie” on the Glasgow streets, from now on it’ll be “Hey DOCTOR Jimmy”.
    I don’t think the pecking order of episcopacy works that way.

  6. I relish the memory of being interrupted in the middle of a history lesson on the Protestant Reformation by the Head teacher showing round our new rector, who demanded deference. I had just drawn two triangles showing the revolution of the hierarchical wheel of supremacy, and was explaining the birth of democratic thinking: People First, not The Pope or Monarch.

  7. The great values of the Celtic church brought communities together. People were nurtured. Oswald was a people’s king while St Cuthbert didn’t want to be a bishop. He preferred spending time on islands praying and being in the community, healing. Poor thing , he ended up at the Synod of Whitby watching Celtic Christianity disappear and the hierarchical Roman church take over.

  8. To my regret, the website of my local cathedral dogmatically asserts that St Augustine brought Christianity to Britain. This in spite of the martyrdom of St Alban and the fact that British bishops are mentioned as attending early Councils of the Church long before St Augustine’s arrival on these shores.

    Little seems to be known about the earliest Christian church in Britain, but it clearly existed, even if not widespread, in Roman times: St Alban is the most basic evidence for that. There must be much else of which we don’t know, and it would be wonderful to learn more.

  9. I carefully did not make too many claims for the pre-597 church but clearly it existed in Wales, Ireland and Scotland. I was once involved in some archaeological digging on Iona and was pleased to find a small piece of Byzantine pot. This linked the Celtic Christian world for me for me with the Byzantine world where hierarchy was practised quite differently from the Latin West. Certainly there is evidence to suggest that the gentler monastic traditions may have travelled from the traditions of the East

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